, that is a millennium in washington for situations like this. so there is lots of time. >> susie: let me pick up on a point that you made about the market view about economic growth is coming for next year and the year after. let's talk about that. because even if there is a deal, there are worries that that deal is going to be a drag on the economy, what with higher tax rates, the removal of the payroll tax cut, possibly. isn't that bad for the economy going forward? >> susie, you're right. there will be some fiscal drag, some contraction, as spending cuts occur, as taxes go up somewhat, and as certain tax cuts, like the payroll tax cut, expires. but i think there is going to be a big boost to confidence, and i think there is going to be a broad clearing of the air as this issue is resolved. and there has been so much hesitation on the part of employers and businesses on investing and on hiring, i think that's going to be wiped away. and the result -- the net rest isoing to be an improved growth rate in 2013, and especially big growth rates in 2014 and 2015. >> susie: roger, we have less than a